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We know Avedis Zildjian started production in 1929 in the Quincy, Massachusetts USA. Hard to see in this photo is the "genuine turkish cymbals, made in usa" but it's there, it's a complete logo.

This is a rough guide to help estimate the age of your cymbal. In the thirties Zildjian's most popular cymbal measured between 8 and 14 inch, weight paperthin, easily bendable. In the fourties Bebop drummers began to use larger rides and sizzle cymbals. First Stamp 1920s-1930s Very rare case of a misprint.

To date your cymbal using the stamp go to in the article on Zildjian Stamps It is difficult to give an exact estimate of age of a Vintage Zildjian but usually you will be able to say ‘this is from the 30s, or 40s or 50s etc’.

It is unlikely that you or anyone ele could tell if it’s from 1953 or 1958 for example, simply because individual data were not kept.

There is no official track record of the stamps used by Zildjian. The proces of stamping wasn't very accurate and the imprint varies.There is no book, so far, so I took some pictures of my own cymbals over the years and arranged them in a timeline to my best knowledge. Ride size ranged up to 30 inch and 16 inch Hihats are known from this era. In the fifties and later little inkstamps on odd shaped models say SWISH, PANG or FLANGED HI-HATS, MEDIUM RIDE etc. This is also known as the 'pre-ink' period, so before mid 1970s when Zildjian started the silkscreen ink stamps on the bottom with the open ink-stamp logo. This picture was send to me by email from a fellow Zildjian afficionado.Some stories tell about drumshops stamping cymbals according client preferences. More examples of mistakes in the stamp department like double stamps, even double double stamps (4) can be found on the internet drumforums.If you have existing cymbals, knowing the weight of the cymbal that you are considering purchasing will allow you to have an comparison tool The size, weight and ‘thinness’ of a cymbal are closely related.These relationships are discussed at length (and with heat) on drum and cymbal forums around the web.

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